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Tyler Savage
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Username: T_savage

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi!

I am just wondering if other divisions allow cadets on duty. If so, are they restricted to certain hours?

Thanks,

Tyler Savage
Leeds, Grenville & Lanark Branch
savage.sja.lgl@gmail.com
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T. Russell Walter
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 09-2010
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In York, cadets are allowed to attend duties for 5 hours till they become crusaders. An adult member is allowed to supervise a maximum of 2 cadets/youth members and must understand they are taken out as responders as they must supervise the youth members.
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Marika Beaumont
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Username: Marika_beaumont

Post Number: 73
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are no provincial or national restrictions on youth other than they must be supervised by a dedicated trained (must have Youth Supervisor or Nat. Youth Leadership Course) adult. The MFR on duty is not the person also responsible for the youth. If a duty requires 2 MFR then there must be 3 adults there - 2 MFR and 1 youth supervisor. They can take turns being that individual during the event or shift.
Marika Beaumont
Provincial Youth Program Advisor
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Tyler Savage
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Username: T_savage

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Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys. This is very helpful and I appreciate it. Second question, as titles have changed with rank is a Youth Division Officer still classified as on Officer with the adult division? I ask in the sense that the Youth Officer is the only Officer on the duty, would they be in charge?

Thanks,

Tyler
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Hal Rowan
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Username: Hrowan

Post Number: 191
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I was a Youth Unit Coordinator, it was easier to explain it as thinking of the Youth Unit as being a "guest" of the Patient Care Unit at the Community Service Event. The Patient Care Unit has already designated someone as the "senior" member on site who will sort out any conflicts (and in some cases that might be you, if you regularly sign up to cover their events as an Independent Patient Care Provider). If you can't reasonably work out a disagreement with that senior member, then speak with their Unit Coordinator later.

The LAST thing you want to see is a couple of volunteers squabling about how many pips are on their shoulder in public. ;)
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Marika Beaumont
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Username: Marika_beaumont

Post Number: 74
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A leader within a youth unit or an MFR unit - regardless of title is a leader within their own unit. If difficulties arise at any public event or non-public event the leadership (regardless of unit) needs to sort out the issues to the best of their knowledge. Leadership skills cross boundaries. Having said that, if there are issues with an MFR member and only a youth leader is present then they can deal with the immediate issue at the time and then take it back to the MFR leadership and vice versa - MRF should take issues back to youth leadership. Leadership should meet long before any issue might arise and sort out a plan for your home branch.

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